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BALLA d'Oro I

VALARESSO - VITTURI


List of family-names in the Balla d'Oro I

  1. Valaresso
  2. Valier
  3. Vendramin
  4. Venier
  5. Viaro
  6. Vitturi

127 ) VALARESSO

 
  Valaresso        
21 Valaresso , Donado e Francesco Castello San Ternita 2000  
28 Valaresso , Nicolo Castello San Ternita 500  
30 Valaresso , Vettor Castello San Ternita 1300  
32 Valaresso , Zuanne Castello San Ternita 800  
281 Valaresso , Luca e Nadal San Marco San Moritio 3000  
369 Valaresso , Zorzi San Marco San Fantin 1000  

Barbaro Genealogie VII . 153

carta 149 R
carta 150 V part II

Valaresso , Nicolo , ambassador to Patriach Aquileia on 17.04.1385

  1. Valaresso x N ( Andrea di Giacomo x Esmeralda )              Not in Barbaro genealogy

    anno 1431 : Andrea qu Giacomo ( sponsor is the mother - widow Esmeralda  , tt. are Marino Mocenigo qu Francesco & Paolo Foscolo qu Andrea )
     
  2. Valaresso x Orsini anno 1402 ( Bartolommeo fu Nicolo x Pierina di Egidio )      Carta 157

    Bartolomeo di Nicolo is capo sestieri Castello on 04.04.1403
    Bartolomeo qu Nicolo is patronus of galley for Flanders on 03.02.1407
    Bartolomeo Valaresso is sopracomito in the Golf on 02.07.1413

    anno 1428 : Nicolo di Bartolomeo qu Nicolo ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Omobono Gritti & Gaspare Da Mosto )
        Nicolo di Bartolomeo is bowman on galleys for Aigues Mortes on 19.03.1430 , his father testifies his age
        Nicolo qu Bartolomeo is bowman on galleys for Alexandria on 24.08.1430
        Nicolo qu Bartolomeo entered Great Council on 29.12.1431 after the Barbarella
        Nicolo qu Bartolomeo is bowman on galleys for Tana on 10.07.1433 , his mother Pirina testifies
        Nicolo qu Bartolomeo is bowman on galleys for Aigues Mortes on 20.05.1434
        Nicolo qu Bartolomeo is bowman on galea trafego on 02.05.1435

       no offspring

    anno 1429 : Galeazzo di Bartolomeo qu Nicolo  ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Triadano Gritti qu  Omobono & Azo Priuli qu Antonio )
        Galeazzo qu Bartolomeo entered Great Council on 09.11.1433 after the Barbarella
        Galeazzo qu Bartolomeo is bowman on galleys for Tana on 14.07.1434 , his mother Perina testifies

        no offspring

    anno 1433 : Battista ( sponsors are the mother - widow Pirino di Egidio & Egidio Orsini , tt. are Giorgio Valaresso & Antonio Loredan qu Andrea )
        Battista qu Bartolomeo entered Great Council on 02.04.1435 after the Barbarella
        Battista qu Bartolomeo is at XL on 15.04.1448
        Battista is sopraconsul on 23.07.1459
        Battista is ad justitia vecchia on 02.06.1462
        He is ad justitia vecchia on 06.10.1467
        He is proveditor Legnago on 23.07.1470
        He is ad razon veteris on 06.09.1473
        He
    is on XLI at election of Doge Vendramin on 02.03.1476
        He is proveditor biave on 17.07.1477
        He is on XL at election of Doge Giovanni Mocenigo on 12.05.1478
        He is on the XLI at election of Doge Giovanni Mocenigo on 13.05.1478
        Battista qu Bartolomeo is podesta Vicenza on 02.09.1480
        He is podesta & capitano Ravenna on 30.10.1484

        Valaresso x Bragadin anno 1441 ( Giovanni Battista fu Bartolommeo x Cristina di Angelo )

    anno 1436 : Federico qu Bartolomeo  ( sponsor is Zaccaria Valaresso , tt. are Azo Priuli qu Antonio & Antonio Loredan qu Andrea )
        Federico qu Bartolomeo is bowman on galley Beirut on 16.07.1445
        Federico qu Bartolomeo is judex examinatore on 28.09.1448
        Federico qu Bartolomeo is in the XL on 30.12.1451
        Federico qu Bartolomeo is judex curia petitionarum on 23.09.1463
        He is conte Pola on 29.07.1465
        Federico qu Bartolomeo is camerlengo Padova on 22.12.1470
        He is on XLI at election of Doge Pietro Mocenigo on 11.12.1474
        He is on the XL at election of Doge Giovanni Mocenigo on 12.05.1478
        He is conte Jadre on 20.11.1481 , he was conte Pola anno 1465

       Valaresso x Foscolo anno 1448 ( Federico fu Bartolommeo x Francesca fu Paolo )

    anno 1446 : Adoardo qu Bartolomeo  ( sponsor is Bernardo Valaresso qu Bernardo , tt. are Marino Avanzago qu - hard to read -  & Leonardo Loredan qu Andrea )                    
        Adoardo qu Bartolomeo is bowman on a navus on 09.04.1445 , his mother Pirina testifies his age
        Adoardo qu Bartolomeo is bowman on nave Vendeline on 21.05.1446
       
    Adoardo qu Bartolommeo is bowman on galleys for Flanders , on 06.03.1448
        Adoardo qu Bartolomeo is bowman on galley Tana on 07.07.1450
        Adoardo qu Bartolomeo entered Great Council on 16.07.1451 aged XXV
        Adoardo qu Bartolomeo is bowman on galley for Cyprus on 04.08.1452

        no offspring

    Also : Loredan x Valaresso anno 1428 ( Antonio fu Andrea from San Giacomo dall Orio x Nida fu Bartolommeo )
     
  3. Valaresso x Da Mula  ( Maffeo di Vettore x Orsa di Antonio qu Giovanni )    Carta 158

    anno 1425 : Vettore qu Maffeo ( sponsor is Giorgio Valaresso di Vettore who sponsors his nepote , tt. are Vettore Duodo qu Pietro  & Benedetto Vitturi qu Zaccaria   )

     
       One son without offspring

        Extinct
     
  4. Valaresso x N ( Vettore )                San Polo

    Vettore Vallaresso is savio ai ordine on 01.10.1388

    no probation : Maffeo

           1)  Maffeo di Vettore is capo sestieri Castello on 01.03.1402
                
               Valaresso x Da Mula  ( Maffeo di Vettore x Orsa di Antonio qu Giovanni )


    no probation : Giorgio
           2) Giorgio qu Vettore is capo sestieri Castello anno 1409
               Giorgio Valaresso & fratres will make voyage to Thessaloniki with grain , see Senato Misti on 13.02.1415
               Giorgio qu Vettore is sopracomito of armed galley in the Golf against  pirates on 30.03.1430
               Giorgio qu Vettore is
    savio sopra imprestiti on 13.02.1439
               Giorgio is at XLI at election of Doge Pasquale Malipiero on 27.10.1457

              Valaresso x Loredan anno 1415 ( Giorgio fu Vettore x Maddalena di Giovanni )   

     no probation : Paolo
              
               Paolo Valaresso is savio ai ordine on 01.10.1421
               Paolo qu Vettore is savio ai ordine on 30.09.1428
              
    Paolo Valaresso is syndicus in Albania , Dalmatia & Istria , serving on 23.09.1429
               Paolo qu Vettore is senator on 02.08.1439

               Paolo Valaresso is podesta Justinopolis , see Deliberazione Mar on 19.11.1440

               Valaresso x Trevisan anno 1415 ( Paolo fu Vettore x Francesca di Girolamo )

    anno 1412 : Fantin qu Vettore who is sponsored by his brother Alvise

          4) No offspring

    anno 1412 : Zaccaria qu Vettore who is sponsored by his brother Paolo
          5) Zaccaria is savio ai ordine on 01.04.1433
              Zaccaria is syndicus on parts of terraferma on 22.01.1438
              Zaccaria is bailo Cyprus , returning anno 1442 , he was elected in 1439
              Zaccaria qu Vettore holds 1 carat in galley for Barbaria on 08.02.1446 of Marino Malipiero qu Lorenzo

              Zaccaria is podesta Bergamo on 09.11.1450
              He is on the XL and the XLI at election of Doge Cristoforo Moro on 12.05.1462
              He is consigliere ducale on 12.09.1462

            
    Valaresso x Malipiero anno 1435 ( Zaccaria fu Vettore x Francesca di Lorenzo vidua Francesco Morosini )    


    Nota bene : Duodo x Valaresso anno 1405 ( Vettore fu Pietro x Cristina di Vettore )

128 ) VALIER

 
  Valier        
442 Valier , Nicolo Cannaregio San Marcuola 1000  
  Valier , Da. Francesca Cannaregio San Marcuola 1000  
620 Valier , Francheschin Dorsoduro San Gervasio 3600  Barbaro pg. 174
624 Valier , Marco Dorsoduro San Gervasio 1500  Barbaro pg. 174
639 Valier , Bertuci Dorsoduro San Baseggio 1300  Barbaro pg. 174
647 Valier , Andrea Dorsoduro San Rafael 500  
649 Valier , Nicolo qu. Andrea Dorsoduro San Rafael 500  

Barbaro Genealogie VI . 163

carta 152 R last part

I have not found the first part of the Ca Valier

  1. Valier x N (  Bertucci  )        Carta 174

    Sons with offspring according to Barbaro Genealogie

    1) Valier x Tagliapietra anno 1414 ( Natale *  fu Bertuccio x Bianca fu Giovanni )

    2) Valier x Dolfin anno 1414 ( Ottaviano fu Bertucci x Elisabetta fu Benedetto )      Carta 178

        Ottaviano Valier is capo sestieri Dorsoduro anno 1406
        Ottaviano Valier is capo sestieri Dorsoduro anno 1407
        Ottaviano Valier is capo sestieri Dorsoduro anno 1408
        Ottaviano Valier is senator on 29.08.1438
        Ottaviano Valier is savio sopra adaptation imprestiti on 25.06.1439
        Ottaviano Valier qu Bertucci is senator on 02.08.1439

        Ottaviano qu Bertucci is in X on 01.10.1454 , inquisitor on 01.10.1454
        Ottaviano is capo X on 01.03.1455
        Ottaviano qu Bertucci is in zonta Senate on 01.10.1456
        Ottaviano is consiglieri ducale on 04.06.1459

    3) Marino who married twice , probably a son from his 2d marriage with a donna Salamon who was called Michele  

        Marino qu Bertucci is capo sestieri Dorsoduro on 10.05.1419
        Marino qu Bertucci is consigliere ducale on 11.07.1454
        Marino qu Bertucci is in zonta Senate on 01.10.1456

    4) Valier x Querini anno 1418 ( Giacomo fu Bertucci x Ginevra di Michele )

         Giacomo qu Bertucci is capo sestieri Dorsoduro on 01.03.1417
         Giacomo is anno 1430 member of the XL , 30 years old , probation in 1416 , we do not possess any probations of Ca Valier in Barbarella part I

    5) Alessandro
          Alessandro qu Bertucci is capo sestieri Dorsoduro on 08.11.1402
          Alessandro qu Bertucci is capo sestieri Dorsoduro on 01.03.1404

    6) Valier x Foscari anno 1425 ( Simeone fu Bertucci x Padova di Frangi )                     Carta 175

     
       Simeone Valier is savio sopra Brenta on 04.08.1458 , see Senato Mar

     
  2. Valier x N ( Biagio )           Carta 169

    4 sons

    1) Alvise who married a Venier , no offspring

    2)  Andrea

         Valier 1x Lombardo anno 1409 ( Andrea fu Biagio x Francesca di Antonio )           Carta 170
      
     
    Valier 2x Diedo anno 1419 ( Andrea fu Blasio x Orsa fu Bertucci ) 

         Andrea qu Biagio is capitano nave on 08.02.1436
         Andrea qu Biagio is in zonta Senate on 03.05.1457
         Andrea qu Biagio is in zonta Senate on 01.10.1457


    3) Valier x Nicolosi anno 1414 ( Paolo fu Blasio x Nera fu Giorgio )
         
          Paolo qu Biagio is proveditor Rovereto on 12.01.1421
          Paolo Valier qu Biagio is witness at entry Giovanni Erizzo di Francesco in the XL on 02.1.1446

    4) Valier x Piumazzo anno 1415 ( Marco fu Blasio x Letizia di Giovanni * )

           Marco Valier qu Biagio is capo sestieri Dorsoduro on 11.06.1411
           Marco qu Biagio is podesta & capitano Sacile on 17.01.1441

    Also :
    Querini x Valier ( Paolo di Giacomo x Cristina )
     
  3. Valier 1x Lombardo anno 1409 ( Andrea fu Biagio x Francesca di Antonio specier )  Carta 170

    Andrea Valier qu Biagio is capo sestieri Dorsoduro anno 1407
    Andrea Valier qu Biagio is elected capitano navi on 14.02.1436
    Andrea Valier qu Biagio is capo ballisterie on 08.03.1437

    anno 1434 : Giovanni di Andrea qu Biagio  ( sponsor is the father , tt. are the brothers Pietro & Marco Valier )
        1) Giovanni di Andrea is bowman on galleys for Beirut on 22.08.1435

          Valier x Barozzi anno 1445 ( Giovanni fu Andrea x Samaritana fu Alvise )

     
  4. Valier x N ( Francesco )

         no probation : Pietro
       
             1) Pietro qu Francesco is capo di sestieri Dorsoduro on 24.01.1413

     
  5. Valier x Tagliapietra anno 1414 ( Natale *  fu Bertuccio x Bianca fu Giovanni )    Carta 174

    Natale qu Bertucci is capo sestieri Dorsoduro on 01.03.1405

    anno 1441 : Vettore qu Natale ( sponsor is the mother - widow , tt. are Giacomo Zorzi di Giorgio & Giorgio Venier qu Giovanni  & Francesco Caravello qu Leonardo )
         Vettore qu Natale is avogador curia procuratore and thus entered Great Council on 25.09.1443 as avogador piccoli , his mother Bianca testifies
         Vettore qu Natale is on XL on 03.07.1454
         Vettore Valier is capo contrata San Rafael on 02.05.1455
         Vettore qu Natale is at XL on 26.06.1455
         Vettore qu Natale  is off. justitia veteris on 17.10.1456
         He is off. doana maris on 12.01.1458
         Vettore qu Natale is proveditor sopra ligne on 22.06.1470

         No offspring

    anno 1449 : Alessandro qu Natale ( sponsor is his mother , tt. are Giacomo Nani qu . . . . . & Giacomo Zorzi di Giorgio )
        Alessandro qu Natale entered Great Council on 21.06.1451 aged XXV , tt. is his elder brother Vettore

       No offspring

       No offspring from either son

    * Natale Valier di Bertucci died anno 1427 , in his will his youngest son Alessandro was already mentioned , see Prove di Eta anno 1451

129 ) VENDRAMIN

 
  Vendramin        
960 de Vendrami , Andrea Santa Croce San Casą 20.000  
974 de Vendrami , Marco e Zanin Santa Croce San Casą 600  



Barbaro genealogy VII . 193


Andrea Vendramin di Luca , avo del Doge Andrea entered the nobility after the war of Chioggia , see Cicogna book I pagina 47
 .

He had 2 sons , both with offspring


carta 153 R

  1. Vendramin x Michiel ( Bartolommeo x Maria )    Carta 199

    anno 1415 : Luca qu Bartolomeo ( sponsors are the brothers Pietro a Paolo Michiel qu  Maffeo , the mother is a widow , tt. not mentioned )
         
          Luca Vendramin is capo sestieri Cannaregio on 10.05.1419
          Luca Vendramin is in zonta Senate on 29.09.1438
          Luca & Andrea hold
    1 carat in galley of Pietro Arimondo di Nicolo for Tana on 21.05.1446
           Luca is consigliere ducale on 29.04.1455
           Luca is on XL on election of Doge on 09.05.1462

       1) Vendramin x Morosini anno 1443 ( Luca fu Bartolommeo x Lodovica di Orsato )

    anno 03.12.1418 : Andrea qu Bartolomeo ( sponsors are Azo Trevisan qu Paolo & Antonio Michiel qu Maffeo , tt. are Urbano Malipiero qu Vettore & Giacomo Zane di Giovanni )     Carta 201        
        Andrea becomes Doge of Venice

         Andrea qu Bartolomeo is sopra decima Cannaregio on 13.05.1422
         He is senator on 05.08.1453
         He is on the XXV and the XLI at election of Doge Cristoforo Moro on 10.05.1462
         He is consigliere ducale on 07.02.1465
         He is savio del consiglio on 11.03.1471
         Andrea Procurator  is elected for XL at election of Doge Tron on 15.11.1471
         Andrea Procurator  is on the XLI at election of Doge Tron on 17.11.1471
         Andrea Procurator
    is elected on the XL at election of Doge Marcello on 03.08.1473
        Andrea Procurator
    is on the XXV at election of Doge Marcello on 05.08.1473
        
    He is on XLI at election of Doge Marcello on 13.08.1473
         Andrea Procurator is on the XXV at election of Doge Pietro Mocenigo on 06.12.1474
         He is on XLI at election of Doge Pietro Mocenigo on 11.12.1474
         He
    is on the XL at election of Doge Vendramin on 28.02.1475
         He is on XLI at election of Doge on 02.03.1476 and will be elected


      2) Vendramin x Gradenigo anno 1426 ( Andrea *  fu Bartolommeo x Regina di Andrea )    

    Also : Michiel x Vendramin anno 1407 ( Giovanni di Francesco x Luchina di Bartolommeo qu Andrea ) 
    Also :
    Morosini x Vendramin ( Consorto di Giacomo x Lucia di Bartolommeo qu Andrea )
    Also : Morosini x Vendramin ( Gaudentio di Giacomo x Clara di Bartolommeo qu Andrea ) 

    The Doge had a great number of relatives , see Balla d'oro II

     
  2. Vendramin x Barbaro anno 1400 ( Zaccaria fu Andrea x Maria di Antonio )           Carta 199

    anno 1425 : Antonio qu Zaccaria ( sponsor is Matteo Barbaro qu Antonio , tt. are Vettore Barbaro qu Maffeo & Dario Malipiero qu Michele )

       1) Vendramin x Malipiero anno 1422 ( Antonio di Zaccaria x Maria de Tommaso )

130 ) VENIER

  Venier        
11 Venier , Nicoletto Castello S. Zuanne Bragola 1500 Pagina 245
19 Venier , Zuanne Castello S. Zuanne Bragola 1500 Pagina 245
  Venier , Da. Cattarina Castello Santa Maria Formosa 1500  
144 Venier , Almoro Castello Santa Marina 3000 Pagina 235 .  Member of Zonta anno 1371
148 Venier , Conte Castello Santa Marina 300 Pagina 235
163 Venier , Polo Castello Santa Marina 500  
167 Venier , Zorzi qu. Nicolo Castello Santa Marina 3000  
214 Venier , Antonio ( with great offspring , red. ) San Marco San Moise 800 Barbaro pg. 246
216 Venier , Andrea San Marco San Moise 300  
231 Venier , la possession que fo de sier Mari San Marco San Moise 1000 Barbaro pg. 246
234 Venier , Lunardo San Marco San Moise 3000 Barbaro pg. 246  , he suffered great loss during war , see Senato Misti 1381 on pagina 121r
235 Venier , Mari San Marco San Moise 800  
  Venier , Da. Beatrice San Marco San Moise 600  
307 Venier , Andrea San Marco San Samuel 1500 Barbaro pg. 234
310 Venier , Bernardo San Marco San Samuel 4000 Barbaro pg. 233
316 Venier , Maffio San Marco San Samuel 2500 Barbaro pg. 233
317 Venier , Nicolo San Marco San Samuel 1300 Barbaro pg. 234
320 Venier , Piero San Marco San Samuel 2500 Barbaro pg. 233
425 Venier , Giacomo Cannaregio San Jeremia 300 Barbaro pg. 246
488 Venier , Marco Cannaregio San Felice 500  
557 Venier , Beleto Cannaregio San Cantian 2500  
  Venier , Da. Beriola San Polo San Silvestro 1000  
871 Venier , Benetto Santa Croce Santa Croce 500  
873 Venier , Marco Santa Croce Santa Croce 800  
  Venier , Da. Lucia Santa Croce San Simeon Profeta 300  
901 Venier , Andrea qu. sier Rigo Santa Croce San Zuanne Degolą 300 Barbaro pg. 221
902 Venier , Almoro o Ermolao Santa Croce San Zuanne Degolą 2900 Barbaro pg. 225 , brother of Doge
903 Venier , Antonio Santa Croce San Zuanne Degolą 2500 Barbaro pg. 225 future Doge
904 Venier , Andrea Santa Croce San Zuanne Degolą 1500  
909 Venier , Francesco Santa Croce San Zuanne Degolą 1500  
913 Venier , Marco de sier Nicolo Santa Croce San Zuanne Degolą 2000  
  Venier , Da. Fortalise Santa Croce San Zuanne Degolą 300  
985 Venier , Blondo Santa Croce Santa Maria de Mura 3000  
 


11 V last part from december 1435 , ends in 1437

146 V part I  , till 24.05.1421

177 R part II

  1. Venier x Muazzo anno 1408 ( Alvise fu Leonardo x Chiara di Nicolo )     Carta 227

    Venier , Alvise qu Leonardo , Procurator San Marco on 12.01.1443 , instead of Andrea Contarini , for 8 years , succeeded by Francesco Barbaro doctor cavalier qu Candiano

    anno 1428 : Leonardo di Alvise qu Leonardo  ( sponsor is the father , tt. are N. Muazzo qu Nicolo & Benedetto Venier qu Bartolommeo )
        1) Leonardo di Alvise enters Great Council on 29.05.1430 after the Barbarella , his father testifies

            No offspring

    anno 1430 : Francesco di Alvise qu Leonardo  ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Marino Pisani qu Cristoforo & Pietro Priuli qu Lorenzo )       Carta 231
        2) Francesco di Alvise is avogador curia petition and enters Great Council on 24.09.1432 as avogador piccoli
            Francesco di Alvise is savio ai ordine on 01.10.1443
            Francesco is at imprestiti on 12.07.1456 , tt .are Orsato Giustiniani militis & Ermolao Pisani
            Francesco qu Alvise is senator on 09.09.1453
            Francesco qu Alvise is senator on 29.08.1454
            Francesco qu Alvise Procurator
    Venier is off. imprestiti on 12.07.1456
            He is proveditor salis on 21.05.1463

            Venier x Dona anno 1441 ( Francesco di Alvise Procurator  x Elena di Andrea )

    anno 1435 : Giovanni di Alvise qu Leonardo who is in Vicenza because of the pest ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Marino Pisani qu Cristoforo & his son Paolo Pisani )

         3) Giovanni
            No offspring

    anno 1444 : Marino ( sponsor is the father Procurator , he became Procurator in 1444 , tt. are Antonio Venier qu Pietro & Marino Morosini di Albertino )   M
         4) Marino di Alvise Procurator entered Great Council on 11.09.1448 as avogador piccoli , his father testifies
             Marino qu Alvise Procurator is at the XL on 14.05.1454
             Marino is savio ai ordine on 01.10.1458
             Marino qu Alvise Procurator is savio ai ordine , elected on 30.03.1459
             He is ad doana maris on 17.04.1464 , tt. are Matteo & Alvise Erizzo di Stefano
             He is proveditor biave on 26.01.1474
             He is gobernator introitus on 19.07.1484
             Marino Venier is on the XL at election of Doge Marco Barbarigo on 12.11.1485 , é consiglieri ducale
             Marino qu Alvise Procurator is among the XLI at election of Doge Marco Barbarigo anno 1485
             He is consigliere ducale on 07.10.1487
             He is consigliere ducale on 09.06.1490
             He is in zonta Senate on 29.09.1494
             He is in zonta Senate on 29.09.1495
             He is consigliere ducale on 17.12.1495

             He became Procurator San Marco on 23.11.1501 , fo podesta Padua , at the moment of his election he was ' orbo '
             He leaves the job because of his illness , on 20.01.1501 a successor is elected , this will be Paolo Barbo qu Andrea

             Venier x De Molin anno 1454 ( Marino fu Alvise Procurator x Lucia di Lorenzo )
  2.  

    anno 1448 : Nicolo ( sponsor is the father Procurator , tt. are Paolo Tron Procurator & Marino Morosini di Albertino )
         5) Nicolo has son Alvise doctor , he is anno 1514 in Decima San Giacomo dall'Orio with estimo of 58 ducats
             Nicolo qu Alvise Procurator  is off. extraordinario on 09.04.1461 , tt. are his brothers Marino & Francesco
             He is
    XL ad civil on 30.05.1463 , tt. are Antonio Venier qu Pietro & Marino Venier brother of the probate
             He is sopraconsul mercatore on 30.12.1463
             He is judex forestieri on 26.10.1467
             Nicolo qu Alvise is witness at balla d'oro of his nephew Giovanni Venier qu Francesco qu Alvise Procurator anno 1472

             No offspring

     
  3. Venier x N ( Angelo di Andrea x Cristina )      San Baseggio                Carta 236

    Angeloto Venier is patronus of galley Romania on 21.06.1399
    Angelo qu Andrea is elected ambassador to king of Castilia on 17.06.1424 but declined

    anno 1409 : Andrea di Angelo ( sponsor is the father )
         1) Andrea qu Angelo is ad cataveri anno 1452
             
             He + 25.04.1454 as off. cataveri , see Notariato on 29.06.1454 carta 24 R

    no probation : Nicolo

         2) Nicolo entered Great Council on 04.12.1412
             Nicolo di Angelo is capo di sestieri Dorsoduro on 09.04.1421

    anno 1415 : Marco di Angelo qu Andrea ( sponsor is the father , the mother as olim Cristina , tt. are Pietro Dolce qu Nicolo & a notary )
        3) Marco Venier qu Angelo is on the XL on 22.06.1445 , tt. are Bartolommeo Foscarini qu Bartolommeo & Francesco Venier qu Pietro
            Marco qu Angelo is massaro zecca argenti San Marco on 16.07.1455
            Marco qu Angelo is podesta Pirano on 20.04.1457
            He is camerlengo di comun on 23.10.1461

           Venier x Ferro anno 1425 ( Marco di Angelo x Elisabetta fu Simeone )


    no probation : Pietro

        4) Pietro di Angelo is serving podesta Oderzo on 22.11.1435
            Pietro is proveditor di comun on 20.02.1456 , tt. are his  brother Marco & Bartolomeo Lombardo qu Marco
            Pietro is at Cinque alla pace on 28.08.1459

    anno 1428 : Francesco di Angelo qu Andrea ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Pietro Boldu qu Leonardo &  Francesco Alberto di San Martino )
        5) Francesco di Angelo is bowman on gallleys for Tana on 05.07.1430
            Francesco di Angelo is bowman on galleys in the Golf on 16.07.1431
            Francesco di Angelo is bowman on galley for Tana on 20.06.1432
            Francesco di Angelo is bowman on galleys for Alexandria on 30.03.1433
            Francesco di Angelo is avogador curia proprio and entered Great Council on 05.10.1433 as avogador piccoli
            Francesco qu Angelo is on XL on 04.06.1448
            Francesco qu Angelo is on the XL on 03.02.1455
            Francesco is podesta Montona on 30.07.1456
            Francesco qu Angelo is massaro ad zecca d'oro on 19.01.1460 , tt. is Albano Capello qu Giorgio
            Francesco qu Angelo is podesta Albona on 07.10.1466
            He is apunctador on 21.01.1471
            See function of his son Alvise on 04.12.1480
            He lives in San Salvador anno 08.06.1486 , see Senato Terra

           Venier x Coppo anno 1440 ( Francesco di Angelo x Maria di Pietro )

    anno 1436 : Giovanni di Angelo qu Andrea ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Delfino Venier & Alvise Pesaro qu Caroso )
        6)  Giovanni qu Angelo is bowman on galley for Beirut on 31.07.1444
             Giovanni qu Angelo is on the XL on 12.06.1457 ,  tt. are Andrea De Molin qu Enrico & Nicolo Giustiniani qu Girolamo ( probation in 1436 )
             Giovanni is on the XL on 23.09.1458
             He is officialis pr. on 28.09.1459        
             Giovanni is podesta Pirano on 26.08.1473
             Giovanni qu Angelo lives in San Salvador anno 08.06.1486 , see Senato Terra

            No offspring

                 This family has offspring till 2d part of 18th century

    Senato Terra on 08.06.1486 , about their house in San Salvador in the Merzeria which needs repair , the Senate agrees that the Salt Office will fund the repairs with 1500 ducats

    The house is anno 1486 owned by Francesco & Giovanni Venier qu Angelo , Gabriele Venier qu Angelo ** & Gabriele Venier qu Marco qu Angelo

    ** Gabriele qu Angelo is most likely an error , red.

     
  4. Venier x N ( Andrea x Franceschina )            Carta 228                          Branch San Giovanni Degola

    anno 1417 :  Benedetto qu Andrea  ( sponsors are Bartolommeo & Luca Pesaro fratres , tt. are the sponsors )
        1) Benedetto qu Andrea da San Giovanni Decollato is capo sestieri Santa Croce on 10.05.1419
            Benedetto qu Andrea holds 1 carat in galley of Ermolao Minio di Lorenzo for Aigues Mortes anno 1450
            He is consigliere ducale on 02.04.1454
            Benedetto is podesta Bergamo anno 1464 , missing act in prove di eta
            He is gobernator introitus on 05.09.1468
            He is consigliere ducale on 16.03.1471
            He is consigliere ducale on 07.08.1473
            He is Procurator San Marco
    on 01.01.1475 , instead of Luca Da Lezze , for 11 years , succeeded by Zaccaria Barbaro Dr. Cav. qu Francesco Dr. Cav. Proc.
            He is on XL at election of Doge Vendramin on 28.02.1475
            He
    is on XLI at election of Doge Vendramin on 02.03.1476
            Benedetto Procurator
    is on the XL at election of Doge Giovanni Mocenigo on 12.05.1478
            He is on the XXV at election of Doge Giovanni Mocenigo on 12.05.1478
            He is on the XLI at election of Doge Giovanni Mocenigo on 13.05.1478

            Venier x Paruta anno 1422 ( Benedetto fu Andrea x Giovanna fu Francesco qu Domenico )

    anno 1422 : Andrea qu Andrea ( sponsors are Marco Dandolo di Benedetto from San Giacomo in Luprio & Fantin Pesaro qu Andrea , tt. are Donato Giustiniani qu Francesco & Giovanni Pisani qu Pietro )
          2) Andrea qu Andrea holds 2 carats in galley of Ermolao Minio di Lorenzo for Aigues Mortes anno 1450
              Andrea qu Andrea is conte Scutari on 12.08.1453 , see Notariato
              Andrea is conte Spalato on 23.07.1461, tt. are Antonio Venier qu Delfino & Francesco Pesaro qu Antonio
               He is consigliere ducale on 08.06.1469

              Venier x Minotto anno 1425 ( Andrea fu Andrea x Chiara di Pietro )

     
  5. Venier x Benzon anno 1406 ( Antonio cavalier fu Marco fu Ermolao x Bianca di Nicolo )            Carta 229              Venier dalli 2 Ponti

    Venier , Antonio qu Marco is capo sestieri Cannaregio on 01.03.1408
    Venier , Antonio qu Marco is patronus of galley for Beirut on 09.06.1417
    Venier , Antonio qu Marco is savio ai ordine on 01.04.1419
    Venier , Antonio miles is consiglieri ducale on 01.10.1438
    Venier Antonio miles is capo X on 01.11.1455
    Venier Antonio Procurator is elected at the XL at election of Doge Marcello on 03.08.1473
    He is on XLI at election of Doge Marcello on 13.08.1473

    Venier , Antonio cavalier qu Marco , Procurator San Marco on 13.01.1471 instead of Andrea Contarini qu Antonio Procurator , 2 years 10 months , succeeded by Filippo Foscari qu Francesco

    anno 1427 : Marco di Antonio qu Marco ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Alvise Venier qu Leonardo & Bertucci Dolfin qu Francesco )
        1) Marco di Antonio miles , insulting a preacher in church , 1 year in prison , on circa 01.06.1438
             Marco di Antonio miles is witness for Arsenio D'Armer qu Pietro on 21.06.1463
             Marco qu Antonio Procurator is on XXX at election of Andrea Vendramin on 27.02.1475

            Venier 2x De Molin anno 1460 ( Marco di Antonio x Chiara fu Maffeo )

    anno 1432 : Ermolao di Antonio  ( sponsor is Alvise Loredan qu Tommaso , tt. are Lorenzo Vitturi qu Nicolo & Nicolo Bondumier qu Marco )                   is in Balla d'Oro II in Ca Loredan , red.
        Ermolao di Antonio entered Great Council on 27.09.1434 as avogador piccoli , tt. are Lorenzo Muazzo qu Nicolo & Nicolo Contarini qu Gaspare
        Ermolao di Antonio militis is on the XL on 04.05.1448 and on 28.01.1448

            No offspring
     
  6. Venier x Trevisan anno 1408 ( Benedetto fu Bartolommeo x Orsa di Leonardo )          Carta 234

    Benedetto qu Bartolomeo is capo sestieri Cannaregio on 01.03.1409
    Benedetto qu Bartolomeo is capo sestieri Cannaregio anno 1410

    anno 1428 : Andrea di Benedetto qu Bartolomeo ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Giovanni Navajero qu Andrea & Reiniero Coppo qu Donato )
        1) Andrea di Benedetto is avogador curia mobilium and entered Great Council on 01.10.1431 as avogador piccoli

    No offspring

    anno 1431 : Nicolo di Benedetto qu Bartolomeo  ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Michele Trevisan qu Stefano & Paolo Trevisan qu Leonardo )
        2) Nicolo di Benedetto entered Great Council on 14.10.1433 after the Barbarella
            Nicolo di Benedetto is on the XL on 22.04.1445 , his father testifies his age
            He is off. razon nova on 24.09.1465 ,
    tt. are Marino Venier qu Nicolo & Antonio Malipiero qu Lorenzo
            Nicolo Venier qu Benedetto is witness at balla d'oro of Girolamo Pisani qu Pietro qu Vettore on 01.12.1478
            He is witness at balla d'oro of Giovanni Nani qu Costantino on 04.12.1481

            Venier x Lippomano anno 1436 ( Nicolo di Benedetto x Bianca di Maffeo )


  7. Also : Baseggio x Venier anno 1435 ( Alvise di Nicolo x Antonia di Benedetto qu Bortolo )

     
  8. Venier x de Sanguene ( Bernardo qu Marco x Letitia )        San Cancian      Carta 239                        This is the line of Sanguinetto

    No probation : Antonio
              1) Antonio di Bernardo is banned for 1 year and 2 years loss of office on 28.01.1432

                 Venier x Coppo anno 1439 ( Antonio fu Bernardo x Agnese di Pietro )

    anno 1421 : Pelegrino di Bernardo qu Marco  ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Delfino Venier qu Pasquale & Paolo Valier qu Biagio )

                  Peregrino qu Bernardo + as rettore Argos , his brother-in-law Nicolo Valier di Paolo will act for his son

                 Venier x Valier anno 1441 ( Peregrino di Bernardo x Valeria di Paolo qu Biagio )

    anno 1424 : Natale di Bernardo qu Marco ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Dolfin Venier qu Pasquale & a virus prudens Girolamo Leonardo qu Marco )  
              3) Natale di Bernardo is bowman on the galleys for Alexandria on 24.08.1430
                   Natale di Bernardo is banned for 1 year and 2 years loss of office on 28.01.1432
                   Natale qu Bernardo is podesta Montagnana on 01.12.1455 , tt. are Francesco Venier di Delfino & Nicolo De Canal qu Bartolomeo
                   He is judex curia proprio on 15.04.1461
                   He is signori di notte sestieri Dorsodoro on 28.01.1462
                   He is again signori di notte Dorsoduro on 29.05.1464
                   He is auditor vecchia on 03.09.1465
                   He is judex curia petition. on 10.07.1466
                   He is capitano Cadore on 11.05.1467
                   He is podesta & capitano Sacile on 14.01.1471
                   Natale qu Bernardo is consiglieri Creta on 24.07.1476

                 Venier x Diedo anno 1446 ( Natale fu Bernardo x Agnese fu Francesco )

  9.  
  10. Venier x Contarini anno 1410 ( Biagio fu Antonio from San Moise x Lucia di Francesco qu Giovanni da San Paternian  )                   Carta 247

    Biagio di Antonio is capo sestieri San Marco on 01.03.1402
    Biagio qu Antonio is savio ai ordine on 18.11.1427
    Biagio qu Antonio is savio ai ordine on 01.04.1430
    Biagio qu Antonio is syndicus Levante elected on 27.01.1437
    Biagio Venier seems to have died in second part of year 1447 , see his sons Bernardo & Francesco in prove di eta

    anno 1430 : Moise di Biagio qu Antonio  ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Francesco N. qu Nicolo & Benedetto Venier qu Antonio )

         Venier x Vitturi anno 1437 ( Moise fu Biagio x Caterina di Lorenzo )

    anno 1433 : Marco ( sponsor is Benedetto Venier qu Antonio from San Moise , tt. are Marco Priuli qu Leonardo & a vir prudens )          Carta 248
        Marco di Biagio is officialis dazio vini on 08.11.1445
        Marco qu Biagio is on the XL on 05.01.1449 , tt. are Luca Moro qu Giovanni & Arseni Vitturi di Lorenzo
        Marco qu Biagio is savio ai ordine on 01.04.1450
        He is auditor veteris on 29.05.1459
        He is podesta Murano on 30.07.1459
        He is proveditor sopra camere on 30.01.1468
        Marco qu Biagio is elected savio sopra caduze on 05.11.1472 but declined
        Marco qu Biagio is on V savi sopra le acque on 26.04.1473

        Marco qu Biagio  is on the XXX at election of Doge Pietro Mocenigo on 05.12.1474
        He is on XLI at election of Doge Pietro Mocenigo on 11.12.1474
        He is proveditor salis on 24.04.1475
        He is gobernator introitus on 23.06.1477
        He is consiglieri ducale on 09.08.1479 for sestieri Cannaregio
        Marco is capitano Creta on 11.04.1482

    circa 1435 : N. - page is damaged -  Bernardo ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Alessandro Bon qu Pasquale & Nicolo Venier qu Antonio )  
        Bernardo entered Great Council on 21.09.1438 as avogador piccoli
        Bernardo di Biagio is capo sestieri San Marco on 03.07.1447
        Bernardo qu Biagio is at XL on 24.12.1447
        Bernardo qu Biagio is judex forinsecori on 13.07.1456
        He is ad officio doana maris on 30.05.1460
        He is auditor nova on 29.11.1462
        He is auditor nova on 13.09.1463

        Venier x Venier anno 1451 ( Bernardo di Biagio x Clara )

    anno 1445 : Francesco , he was born on 04.09.1427 ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Pietro D'Arpin qu Alvise & Francesco Memmo qu Alessandro )
        Francesco di Biagio is bowman on navus for Syria on 27.07.1446
        Francesco di Biagio is bowman on navus Siria , on 28.07.1447
        Francesco qu Biagio is bowman on galley for Alexandria on 12.09.1447
        Francesco qu Biagio entered Great Council on 23.12.1447 after the Barbarella
        Francesco qu Biagio is bowman on galleys for Tana , on 31.07.1448
        Francesco qu Biagio is bowman on galley for Tana on 31.07.1449
        He is vicedominus fondaco tedeschi on 30.12.1458
        Francesco is on XL criminalis on 05.10.1459
        Francesco is signori di notte sestieri San Marco on 14.02.1459
        Francesco qu Biagio is patronus of a galea trafico anno 1462 , see incanto on 04.01.1461
        Francesco qu Biagio is elected sopracomito in the Senate on 07.12.1470
        He is sopracomito in Armada on 05.04.1474

        No offspring
     
  11. Venier x Masser anno 14- - ( Delfino fu Paschale x Margherita di Leonardo )   Carta 240

    Delfino Venier is elected savio terraferma on 28.12.1430
    Delfino Venier is serving as avogador di comun on 01.04.1436
    Delfino Venier is savio sopra recuperatio denarii on 11.01.1438
    Delfino Venier is capitano Golf on 26.07.1439
    Delfino Venier is avogador di comun on 22.05.1442
    Delfino & his son hold 16 ducats in galley for Alexandria on 23.06.1446

    Offspring with 3 sons , 2 of them became Procurator San Marco
      
    anno 1426 : Francesco di Delfino qu Pasquale  ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Giovanni Anselmo qu Bartolommeo & N.N. , the page is damaged )        Carta 241
        1) Francesco di Delfino is avogador curia petition , he entersGreat Council on 22.01.1430 as avogador piccoli
             Francesco di Delfino is officialis justitia nova on 29.07.1432
             Francesco di Delfino is senator on 14.09.1454
             Francesco di Delfino is bailo Durazzo on 30.12.1455 , see Registro Mar
            Francesco di Delfino  is proveditor sopra salis on 15.04.1460 , tt. are Pietro Morosini qu Marco & Antonio Venier di Delfino
            Francesco qu Delfino is on XL at election of Doge Moro on 09.05.1462
            Francesco qu Delfino is savio terraferma on 01.04.1465
            He is consigliere ducale on 19.06.1465
            He is consigliere ducale on 29.11.1467
            Francesco qu Delfino is avogador di comun on 08..05.1468 , he leaves the post when he became luogotenente Friuli
            Francesco qu Delfino is luogotenente Friuli on 23.09.1468
            Francesco qu Delfino is podesta Padova on 26.09.1470
            Francesco qu Delfino  is elected for XL at election of Doge Tron on 15.11.1471
            Francesco qu Delfino is on the XLI at election of Doge Tron on 17.11.1471
            Francesco qu Delfino is avogador di comun on 18.01.1471
            He is on the XXV at election of Doge Marcello on 05.08.1473
            Francesco qu Delfino became Procurator San Marco anno 1475 , this for
    10 years 9 months , he was succeeded by Tommaso Trevisan qu Stefano
            Francesco Procurator is savio consiglio on 01.04.1478

            Venier x Dandolo anno 1437 ( Francesco fu Delfino x Francesca fu Leonardo )


  12. anno 1430 : Leone & Antonio di Delfino qu Pasquale  ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Marino Vidal maior & Antonio Venier di Bernardo )

        2) Leone di Delfino entered Great Council on 26.04.1432 after the Barbarella , tt. are Marino Vidal & Antono Venier di Bernardo
            Leone di Delfino is off. justitia nova on 07.07.1434
            Leone di Delfino , while in Treviso  , insulted a preacher while in church , 4 months in prison & 2 years ban from office
            Leo di Delfino is elected capitano Lago Garda on 29.01.1442
            Leo di Delfino is savio ai ordine on 01.10.1445
            Leo di Delfino is savio ai ordine on 01.10.1445
            Leo di Delfino is savio ai ordine on 01.10.1446
            Leo di Delfino is savio ai ordine on 01.04.1447
            Leo di Delfino is savio ai ordine on 01.04.1452
            Leo di Delfino is sopracomito of galley in Armada on 14.03.1454
            Leone di Delfino is camerlengo di comun on 12.10.1456
            Leo di Delfino is in zonta Senate on 01.10.1457

            Venier x Pizzamano anno 1435 ( Leone di Dolfino x Elena fu Fantino )

        3) Antonio di Delfino is officialis ad tabula exitis on 19.10.1434 , tt. are Antonio Venier di Bernardo & vir prudens Biagio Ariano qu Boni ,
            Antonio di Delfino is patronus of galley for Candida on 07.07.1441
            Antonio is patronus of galley for Alexandria anno 1442 , see incanto on 11.07.1442
            Antonio di Delfino is patronus of galley for Tana on 26.05.1445
            Antonio di Delfino holds 1 carat in galley of his brother Giacomo for Alexandria on 23.06.1446
            Antonio di Delfino is elected syndico Albania on 22.03.1460
            Antonio is proveditor biave on 30.04.1464 , he was at Balla d'oro anno 1430
            Antonio qu Delfino is conte Jadre on 29.04.1466
            He is consiglieri ducale on 01.06.1472
            He is consiglieri ducale on 12.10.1475
            Antonio qu Delfino is podesta Brescia on 10.01.1475
            Antonio qu Delfino is serving as savio terraferma on 01.03.1478
            He is consiglieri ducale on 04.01.1480
            He is podesta Verona on 30.07.1481
            He is podesta Padua on 02.12.1485
            Antonio became Procurator San Marco anno 1489

            Venier x Pesaro anno 1436 ( Antonio di Delfino x Francesca di Antonio )  

    anno 1433 : Giacomo di Delfino qu Pasquale ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Bernardo Venier qu Marco & Marco Grioni qu Giovanni from Candia
         4) Giacomo di Delfino enters Great Council on 30.09.1434 as avogador piccoli , tt. are his brothers Francesco & Leone
             He is patronus of a galley for Alessandria on 27.06.1446
             Giacomo qu Delfino is capitano of the Golf , see Registro Mar on 08.03.1466
             He is patronus Arsenale on 07.12.1473
             He is gobernator introitus on 18.05.1475
             Giacomo di Delfino is luogotenente Friuli on 14.06.1480
             He is consiglieri ducale on 27.06.1482

          No offspring

     
  13. Venier x N ( Domenico *  x Zaneta )               Carta 235

    anno 1426 : ** Angelo qu Domencio ( sponsor is Marco Giustiniani qu Orsato & Pietro Zen qu Nicolo , tt. are Francesco Capello notario curie maioris corte & Marino Catitan di Giorgio from Creta ) 

    * Domenico Venier from Candia entered Great Council in 1414
    ** Angelo Venier married Teodoxia Morosini , his son Francesco entered Great Council anno 1463 aged XXV

    Barbaro genealogie mentions a line from Nicolo who married a Falier  , this line is extinct around 1500
     
  14. Venier x N ( Giacomo qu Bernardo from San Samuele x Maria )  Branch of San Samuele               Carta 233

    anno 1418 : Bernardo di Giacomo qu Bernrdo  ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Marco Bondumier di Angelo & Nicolo Venier qu Maffeo da San Samuele )
        1) Bernardo di Giacomo is member of the XL on 22.12.1430 , his father testifies
            Bernardo qu Giacomo is senator on 01.10.1456
            He is patronus Arsenale on 12.11.1460
            Bernardo qu Giacomo is on the XLV at election of Doge on 09.05.1462
            Bernardo qu Giacomo
    is among V savi sopra recuperando pecuniae on 01.01.1465
            He is consigliere ducale on 07.10.1466
            He is savio sopra denarii on 20.02.1468
            He
    is on the XL at election of Doge Pietro Mocenigo on 06.12.1474
            He is savio del consiglio serving on 20.10.1478
            He presents his grandson at balla d'oro on 31.10.1480

              Venier x Priuli anno 1426 ( Bernardo di Giacomo x Chiara di Nicolo )

  15.  
  16. Venier x Ambrosani  ( Giovanni di Nicoletto x Isabetta )   From San Samuele   Carta 245

    anno 1428 : Giorgio qu Giovanni ( sponsor is Giusto Venier qu Nicolo , tt. is Marco Erizzo qu Stefano & Nicolo Erizzo qu Stefano  )
        1) Giorgio qu Giovanni is avogador curia mobilium , he enters Great Council on 30.09.1430 as avogador piccoli
            Giorgio qu Giovanni is is capo sestieri Dorsoduro on 17.10.1435 , tt. is Lucia relicta Filippo Erizzo
            Giorgio qu Giovanni is on XL on 21.12.1444
            Giorgio qu Giovanni is capo di contrata San Cancian on 02.05.1455
            Giorgio qu Giovanni is off. sopra X officii on 09.09.1456 , he was at Balla d'oro on 08.07.1428

           
    Venier x Valier ( Giorgio di Giovanni x Crestina di Natale qu Bertucci )
     
  17. Venier x Barozzi anno 1411 ( Giusto fu Nicoletto x Lucia fu Alvise )             From San Samuele    Carta 245

    Giusto qu Nicolo is elected pagador on 22.05.1404
    Giusto Venier is savio sopra adaptation imprestiti on 01.07.1439

    Giusto Venier is infirm at home , wants to become member of Scuola San Marco on 17.07.1461

    anno 1436 : Giovanni di Giusto qu Nicolo who is in Justinopolis ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Benedetto De Molin qu Filippo & Giovanni Venier qu Francesco )

          No offspring , extinct
     
  18. Venier x N ( Lorenzo qu Maffeo x Catarina )      Carta 233                       

    Lorenzo Venier qu Maffeo is capo Dieci on 01.09.1413
    Lorenzo Venier da San Salvador is savio ai imprestiti on 30.04.1426
    Lorenzo Venier is deceased as bailo & capitano Corfu ante 17.12.1428

    anno 1413 : Maffeo di Lorenzo qu Maffeo ( sponsor is the father )
        1) Maffeo qu Lorenzo is capo di sestieri San Marco on 07.12.1430 , his mother Catharina testifies
            Maffeo qu Lorenzo is on XXX at election of Doge on 25.10.1462

             No further offspring

    anno 1422 : Andrea di Lorenzo qu Maffeo ( sponsor is the father , the act is badly damaged )          He is from branch of San Salvador , see Prove di Eta anno 1448 when he is a member of the XL
        2) Andrea qu Lorenzo is capo di sestieri anno 1433
            Andrea qu Lorenzo da San Salvatore is on the XL anno 1448
            Andrea qu Lorenzo is consul mercatore on 09.09.1455 , he was proven on 23.02.1428
            He is signori di notte sestieri San Marco on 30.05.1459 , he had proven the age of XXX on 23.02.1428
            He is ad officio publicatore on 11.08.1461 , he was signori di notte on 30.05.1459
            He is apunctador ad Rialto on 08.07.1467 , he as at XL on 11.08.1461

    no probation : Paolo
         3) Paolo qu Lorenzo is vice-bailo Corfu after death of his father Lorenzo , see 17.12.1428
             Paolo qu Lorenzo is on XL on 26.07.1435

             Venier x Pasqualigo anno 1432 ( Paolo fu Lorenzo x Elisabetta fu Leonardo )
     
  19. Venier x N (  Nicolo x Marina )

    anno 1437 : Costantino ( sponsor is his brother Alvise Venier di Nicolo , tt. are Paolo Venier di Lorenzo ) 
     
  20. Venier x Venier ( Nicolo di Antonio x Isabetta di Pietro maior )            Carta 239 or Carta 246

    anno 1432 : Natale di Nicolo qu Antonio who is on the galleys for Romania ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Pietro Bondumier qu Bernardo & Alvise Barozzi di Antonio  )
        1) Natale di Nicolo entered Great Council on 25.12.1433 after the Barbarella
             Natale qu Nicolo is capo sestieri Dorsoduro on 19.09.1446

    anno 20.11.1434 : Marino di Nicolo qu Antonio ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Giovanni Barbo qu Paolo & Pietro Balbi qu Alvise )
        2) Marino qu Nicolo is avogador omnes curias on 07.10.1443 , he was probated on 07.10.1434
             Marino qu Nicolo is witness for Giovanni D'arpin qu Vito on 25.08.1457
             Marino qu Nicolo is witness for Giovanni Barbaro qu Andrea on 25.05.1458
             Marino qu Nicolo is on the XXX at election of Doge Mareello on 03.08.1473

            Venier x Lando anno 1442 ( Marino fu Nicolo x Regina di Pietro )
  21.  

    anno 03.12.1449 : Pietro ( sponsor is the mother - widow , tt. are Roberto Priuli qu Pietro & . . .   )              The act is badly damaged

         3) Pietro qu Nicolo entered Great Council on 12.09.1452 as avogador piccoli , his mother Isabetta Venier testifies                           He is  in Barbaro genealogy on carta 246
             Pietro qu Nicolo is podesta Valle on 20.11.1456  , his mother Isabella testifies his age
             He is at ternaria nova on 21.01.1459
             He is capo sestieri Dorsoduro on 30.10.1463
             Pietro qu Nicolo is salinieri Chioggia on 04.05.1467
             He is castellano castro San Pietro Verona on 27.10.1469
             Pietro qu Nicolo is avogador Rivoaltis on 15.11.1475

    No offspring in any line
     
  22. Venier x Crespo ( Nicolo di Antonio Duce x Petronella )      Ducal Line    Carta 225                He has 3 sons , all with offspring                     

    anno 1416 : Marco di Nicolo qu Antonio Doge  ( sponsor is the father , tt. is Francesco Lion qu Domenico )                      

        1) Venier x Zusto anno 1422 ( Marco di Nicolo x Elisabetta di Antonio )

    anno 1421 : Tommaso di Nicolo qu il Duce ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Donato Giustiniani qu Francesco & Alessandro Avogadro qu Lorenzo )

         2) Venier x Matafari ante 1446 ( Tommaso x Chiara di Vito , she x2 with Michele Giustiniani )

    anno 1433 : Alvise qu Nicolo qu il Serenissimo  ( sponsor is the mother - widow , tt. are Pietro Dandolo qu Marco & Nicolo Buxello di Antonio from San Samuele )
        3) Alvise qu Nicolo is bowman on the galleys for Beirut on 24.07.1430
            Alvise di Nicolo is bowman on the galleys for Flanders on 05.04.1434
            Alvise qu Nicolo qu il Serenissimo entered Great Council on 28.02.1435 after the Barbarella
            Alvise qu Nicolo qu il Serenissimo is conte Pola anno 1453 , see 02.08.1453 in Registro Mar
            Alvise qu Nicolo is witness at balla d'oro of Andrea Michiel qu Tommaso on 02.12.1458

           Venier x Dandolo anno 1444 ( Alvise fu Nicolo x Elisabetta di Pietro )     

     
  23. Venier x Bertelli , geen datum ( Nicolo fu Maffeo from San Samuele x Marina fu Andrea )        No offspring from any son           Carta 233

    anno 1425 : Alvise & Filippo di Nicolo qu Maffeo  ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Bernardo Venier qu Marco & Delphino Venier )
           Alvise qu Nicolo is bowman on galleys for Tana on 15.07.1435 , his mother Marina testifies

    anno 1432 : Francesco qu Nicolo da San Samuele  ( the father as Nicolo from San Samuele , sponsor is Giacomo Venier qu Bernardo , tt. are Maffeo & Paolo Venier fratres qu Lorenzo )
        2) Francesco qu Nicolo is bowman on galleys for Alexandria & Beirut on 07.09.1431 , his mother Maria testifies
             Francesco qu Nicolo is bowman on galleys for Alexandria on 19.03.1433
             Francesco qu Nicolo is bowman on the navi for Syria on 07.07.1433
             Francesco qu Nicolo is bowman on galleys for Aigues Mortes on 20.05.1434
             Francesco qu Nicolo is bowman on galleys for Flanders on 15.03.1435
             Francesco qu Nicolo is at the XL on 23.06.1453 , he was at balla d'oro on 09.07.1432

    anno 1434 : Domenico qu Nicolo qu Maffeo who is balistarius on the galleys for Tana ( sponsor is the mother - widow , tt. are Lorenzo Vitturi & Bernardo Venier qu Giacomo )
             Domenico qu Nicolo is bowman on galea trafego on 30.04.1435
             Domenico qu Nicolo is bowman on galley for Aigues Mortes on 28.01.1435

    anno 1437 : Costantino qu Nicolo ( sponsor is his brother Alvise Venier qu Nicolo , tt. is Paolo Venier qu Lorenzo )
            4) Costantino qu Nicolo  is on the XXX at election of Doge on 25.10.1457
     
  24. Venier x N ( Nicolo qu Paolo from San Marina )    Carta 234               Santa Marina

    no probation : Marco
       1) Marco di Nicolo replaces his brother Paolo as patronus of a galley for Tana on 20.06.1430

    anno 03.12.1415 : Paolo di Nicolo qu Paolo  ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Andrea Zane qu Lorenzo & Lorenzo Tiepolo qu Francesco )
       2) Paolo di Nicolo is podesta Marostica on 31.05.1423
           Paolo di Nicolo is patronus of galley for Romania on 18.05.1429
           Paolo di Nicolo is patronus galley for Tana on 20.06.1430 , his father Nicolo testifies he is XXX years old

           No offspring
     
  25. Venier x N ( Nicolo qu Pietro )   Carta 245

    no probation : Giusto

           Giusto da San Samuele entered Great Council anno 1407
           Giusto qu Nicolo is savio ai ordine on 01.10.1422

           Venier x Barozzi anno 1411 ( Giusto fu Nicoletto x Lucia fu Alvise )   

    no probation : Giovanni

          Venier x Ambrosani  ( Giovanni di Nicoletto x Isabetta )

    no probation : Andrea

           Venier x Surian anno 1414  ( Andrea  x donna di Michele )

            no offspring

          
     
  26. Venier x N ( Pasquale x Florentia )       

    anno 1420 : Zaccaria di Pasquale (  sponsors are Giovanni Venier qu Pietro from San Samuele & Bernardo Venier qu Marco from San Rafael ,  probate is 18 years old according to Pietro Zen di Andrea & Nicolo de Casanova di Nicosia )
     
  27. Venier x N ( Pietro x Franceschina )

    anno 1418 : Marco qu Pietro ( sponsors are Alvise Venier qu Leonardo & Leonardo Venier qu Pietro , tt. are Lorenzo Venier qu Giovanni & Albano Capello qu Troilo )
     
  28. Venier x N ( Pietro x Lucia olim uxore sua )     Carta 222   Santa Lucia

    anno 1427 : Giovanni qu Pietro ( sponsor is Leonardo Venier qu Pietro , tt. are Nicolo Venier qu Antonio & Nicolo Querini qu Giacomo )

          Venier x Malipiero anno 1426 ( Giovanni fu Pietro x Rosana di Tommaso qu Marino  )       

           He sponsors his son Domenico at balla d'oro anno 1457

    anno 1428 : Francesco qu Pietro ( sponsors are Nicolo Venier qu Antonio & Alvise Venier qu Leonardo , tt. are Gaspare Soranzo di Tommaso & Bernardo Girardo qu Giovanni )
        Francesco qu Pietro is avogador curia procuratorie on 03.04.1460

            Venier x Loredan anno 1429 ( Francesco fu Pietro x Elisabetta di Francesco )


  29. anno 1430 : Paolo qu Pietro  born on 25.05.1412 ( sponsor is his brother Giovanni qu Pietro , tt. are Francesco Venier qu Pietro his other brother ) 
        Paolo qu Pietro entered Great Council on 26.05.1432 after the Barbarella

        No offspring

     
  30. Venier x Foscari , no date  ( Santo militis di Francesco x Francesca )  

    Santo Venier qu Andrea is capo sestieri Santa Croce on 24.1.1397
    Santo Venier miles is on the XL at election of Doge Foscari on 07.04.1423
    Santo Venier miles is savio del consiglio on 01.04.1430
    Santo Venier is capo Dieci on 01.10.1430

    anno 1432 : Francesco qu Santo militis  ( sponsor is Marco Foscari  , tt. are Tommaso Malipiero qu Marino & Pietro Dandolo qu Marco )
        Francesco qu Santo militis is avogador curia petition and  entered Great Council on 23.09.1433 as avogador piccoli
        Francesco qu Santo was elected as ambassador to wedding of the Duke of Mantua on 01.01.1436 , he refused
        Francesco qu Santo is savio ai ordine on 30.05.1441
        Francesco qu Santo militis is savio ai ordine on 01.10.1444
        Francezsco qu Santo militis holds 2 carats in galley of Eustachio Balbi on 13.11.1444

         Venier x Begna anno 1435 ( Francesco fu Santo x Margherita di Simeone )

    anno 1436 : Nicolo qu Santo militis ( sponsor is Marco Foscari Procurator , the mother is a widow , tt. are Pietro Balbi qu Nicolo ,  Antonio Diedo & Antonio Arimondo di Donato )

    anno 1437 : Andrea doctor qu Santo militis ( sponsor is his brother Francesco Venier qu Santo militis & Marco Foscari Procurator & Leonardo Venier qu Marco, tt. are Francesco Da Mosto & Francesco Venier predicti )

           See entry of his son in Great Council anno 1461

          Venier x Borromeo da Faenza anno 1436 ( Andrea doctor et miles fu Santo * x Perenzina fu Galeazzo )

  31.  

VIONI  147 V

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131 ) VIARO

 
  Viaro        
179 Viaro , Giacomo San Marco San Marco 1000  
181 Viaro , Nicolo San Marco San Marco 4000  
365 Viaro , Alvise San Marco San Partenia 300  
450 Viaro , Luca Cannaregio St. Maria Maddalena 1000  
463 Viaro , Gerardo Cannaregio San Fosca 500  
467 Viaro , Marco Cannaregio San Fosca 8000  
475 Viaro , Piero Cannaregio San Fosca 2000  
876 Viaro , Alvise Santa Croce San Simeon Apostolo 5000  
882 Viaro , Nicolo Santa Croce San Simeon Apostolo 4500  
887 Viaro , Alvise Santa Croce San Simeon Profeta 5000  

Fantin Viaro is bailo & ambassador in Constantinopel on 01.07.1412

carta 148 R , back to 147 V
carta 151 V one probation

  1. Viaro x N ( Filippo from Canea x Marulla )    Carta 147 V

    anno 1424 : Marco di Filippo ( sponsor is Giovanni Viaro di Filippo from Canea , tt. are Giorgio De Molin & Domenico Polani  )
        Marco di Filippo is judex omnes curias on 21.10.1430 , he was probated in 1430
        Marco qu Filippo is on the XXX at election of Doge Malipiero on 25.10.1457

        Viaro x Malipiero anno 1430 ( Marco fu Filippo x Pellegrina fu Troilo )
     
  2. Viaro x N ( Filippo di Marco )        Carta 151 V

    anno 1410 : Giovanni di Filippo qu Marco ( sponsor is Bartolomeo Donato )
     
  3. Viaro x Valier anno 1400 ( Giorgio fu Luca x Margherita fu Francesco )

    Giorgio Viaro qu Luca is capo sestieri on 01.10.1400
    Giorgio Viaro qu Luca is capo sestieri on 01.04.1402

    no probation : Leone
        Leone di Giorgio was avogador omnes curias on 25.09.1430
        Leo di Giorgio is on the XL on 09.12.1434
        Leo Viaro is capo XL on 07.03.1437
        Leo di Giorgio is savio ai ordine elected on 19.09.1437
        Leo di Giorgio is savio ai ordine on 01.04.1438
        He is savio ai ordine on 01.10.1440
        Leone qu Giorgio is capitano Vicenza on 23.10.1455
        He is savio terraferma on 01.10.1457
        He is savio terraferma on 01.10.1460
        He is patronus Arsenale on 27.10.1460 , tt. are Dionisio Contarini qu Bartolommeo & Lorenzo Moro qu Antonio
        He is on XL and the XLI at election of Doge Cristoforo Moro on 09.05.1462
        He is witness at balla d'oro of Giovanni Viaro qu Stefano on 19.11.1465

    anno 1422 : Orsato di Giorgio qu Luca  ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Francesco Girardo qu Giovanni & Tommaso Querini qu Vielmo )
     
  4. Viaro x Caresini anno 1400 ( Maffeo fu Luca x Cristina fu Giovanni )

    Maffeo qu Luca is capo sestieri Cannaregio on 11.08.1400
    Maffeo Viaro is serving as proveditor di comun on 07.03.1437

    anno 1418 : Luca di Maffeo qu Luca  ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Francesco Girardo qu Giovanni & probably a cittadino )
        1) Luca di Maffeo is sopra decima Cannaregio on 13.05.1422
            Luca di Maffeo is member of the XL on 01.02.1431 , his father testifies
            Luca qu Maffeo is witness for Pietro Viaro qu Stefano on 17.12.1459

            Viaro x Morosini anno 1436 ( Luca fu Maffeo x Morosina fu Bernardo )

    anno 1420 : Stefano di Maffeo qu Luca  ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Giovanni Viaro qu Nicolo & Girolamo Girardo di Francesco )
        2) Stefano di Maffeo is member of the XL on 30.06.1433 , his father testifies
            Stefano di Maffeo holds 1 carat in galley of Pietro Arimondo di Nicolo for Tana on 21.05.1446
            Stefano qu Maffeo is in zonta Senate on 01.10.1456


             Viaro 1x Priuli anno 1436 ( Stefano fu Maffeo x Lugrezia fu Nicolo )
             
    Viaro 2x Longo anno 1445 ( Stefano di Maffeo x Lugrezia fu Marco )

132 ) VITTURI 

 
  Vitturi        
82 Vitturi , Lorenzo Castello San Zuanne Novo 1300  
83 Vitturi , Moretto Castello San Zuanne Novo 500  
103 Vitturi , Daniel en Lunardo Castello Santa Maria Formosa 500  
754 Vitturi , Nicolo San Polo San Augustin 500  



carta 148 V part I

carta 149 V part II

Barbaro Genealogie VII . 275

  1. Vitturi x N ( Bartolommeo di Reiniero x Helena )      Carta 286

    Bartolomeo di Rainiero is capo sestieri Castello anno 1398
    Bartolomeo qu Rainiero is on the XXX at election of Doge Francesco Foscari on 07.04.1423
    Bartolomeo Vitturi is podesta Neapolis Romania on 14.08.1431

    anno 1422 : Rainiero di Bartolomeo qu Rainiero ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Marco Magno qu Marino & Giusto Venier qu Nicolo )

           Vitturi x Pisani anno 1430 ( Rainiero di Bartolommeo x Briseide fu Stefano )  
     
  2. Vitturi x N ( Bulgaro di Bernardo x Cristina )    Carta 279

    Bulgaro Vitturi is capo X on 01.12.1393
    Bulgaro Vitturi is elected cataveri on 01.04.1394
    Bulgaro Vitturi maior is on the XL at election of Doge Foscari on 07.04.1423

    no probation : Matteo

        1)  Matteo qu Bulgaro is savio ai ordine on 01.04.1429
             Matteo is savio terraferma on 19.09.1437
             Matteo qu Bulgaro is in zonta Senate on 29.09.1438
             Matteo qu Bulgaro is podesta Padua on 03.04.1442
             Matteo Vitturi is avogador di comun on 14.04.1444
             Matteo is
     luogotenente Friuli on 14.06.1445 ( Collegio Notariato )
             Matteo qu Bulgaro is avogador di comun elected on 09.09.1453
             Matteo qu Bulgaro is Procurator San Marco on 10.08.1460 , instead of Paolo Tron , this for period of 6 years 10 months , succeeded by Andrea Vendramin qu Bartolomeo
             Matteo Procurator is on the XXV at election of Doge Moro on 10.05.1462

             Vitturi x De Molin anno 1420 ( Matteo di Bulgaro x Elisabetta di Girolamo )

    anno 1418 : Sebastiano di Bulgaro qu Bernardo who is in Constantinopel ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Lorenzo Venier  qu Giovanni & Vettore Dolfin qu Donato )

        2) Sebastiano married a donna from Ca Giustiniani ,

             No offspring

     
  3. Vitturi x Mocenigo anno 1404 ( Daniele fu Nicolo x Elisabetta fu Leonardo )    Carta 279

    Daniele di Nicolo is capo sestieri Castello on 01.03.1408 , he goes to fondaco teutonicore anno 1408
    Daniele qu Nicolo is on the XXV at election of Doge Foscari on 08.04.1423
    Daniele Vitturi is podesta Brescia serving on 22.01.1430
    Daniele Vitturi is avogador di comun on 09.01.1432
    Daniele Vitturi is savio sopra recuperatio denarii on 11.01.1438
    Daniele Vitturi qu Nicolo is in zonta Senate on 29.09.1439

    anno 1424 : Domenico di Daniele qu Nicolo  ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Nicolo De Molin qu Giacomo & Luca Pizzamano qu Filippo )
        1) Domenico is ad officium extraordinario on 09.10.1432
            Domenico qu Daniele is senator on 02.09.1453
            He is in zonta Senate on 01.10.1456
            Domenico qu Daniele is on the XLV at election of Doge on 25.10.1457
            Domenico qu Daniele is on XL at election of Doge on 09.05.1462
            Domenico qu Daniele is proveditor salis on 03.06.1463
            Domenico is capo X on 01.01.1464

           Vitturi 1x Morosini anno 1440 ( Domenico fu Daniele x Cecilia fu Pietro fu Simeone )
            Vitturi 2x Lion anno 1445 ( Domenico fu Daniele x Lucia di Andrea )

    anno 1425 : Pietro di Daniele qu Nicolo ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Vettore Barbaro qu Maffeo & Nicolo Lippomano qu Pietro )
        2) Pietro di Daniele entered Great Council on 02.01.1433 after Barbarella of 1430
            Pietro di Daniele is avogador omnes curias on 13.06.1435

             No offspring

    Garzoni x Vitturi  anno 1429 ( Marco di Francesco x Maria di Daniele )

     
  4. Vitturi x Arbosani anno 1410 ( Lorenzo fu Nicolo x Orsa di Francesco )        Carta 279

    Lorenzo qu Nicolo is witness for Bartolomeo qu Rainiero qu Bartolomeo anno 1460
    Lorenzo qu Nicolo is on XXX at election of Doge Moro on 09.05.1462
     
    anno 1432 : Arsenio di Lorenzo qu Nicolo  ( sponsor is the father , tt. are Antonio Trevisan qu Paolo & Nicolo Bondumier qu Marco )
        1) Arsenio di Lorenzo entered Great Council on 10.11.1435 after the Barbarella
            Arsenio di Lorenzo is on XL on 02.10.1445 , he was at balla d'oro on 02.12.1432
            Arsenio di Lorenzo is witness for Marco Venier qu Biagio on 05.01.1449
            Arsenio di Lorenzo is witness at balla d'oro of Francesco Venier di Giorgio qu Giovanni on 01.12.1456
            Arsenio di Lorenzo is witness at balla d'oro of Pietro Minotto di Francesco qu Pietro on 01.12.1456

           No offspring

    anno 05.09.1448 : Nicolo di Lorenzo ( sponsor is his brother Arsenio Vitturi di Lorenzo qu Nicolo , tt. are Candiano Bollani & Giacomo Pizzamano
        2) Nicolo , he is bowman on 14.07.1447 on the navus Carolo Alboregno , his mother Orsa testifies his age
            Nicolo di Lorenzo is bowman on navus Carolo Alberegno , on 14.07.1447
            Nicolo di Lorenzo is bowman on navus Siria , on 21.07.1447 , see also 14.07.1447
            Nicolo di Lorenzo entered Great Council on 28.06.1449 after the Barbarella
            Nicolo di Lorenzo is bowman on navus di comun on 23.07.1449

            No offspring , not in Barbaro Genealogie

    anno 1453 : Domenico ( sponsor is Pietro Bolani di Maffeo , tt. are Candiano Bolani & Arsenio Vitturi di Lorenzo )
        3) Domenico di Lorenzo entered Great Council anno 1454 aged XXV        
            Domenico qu Lorenzo is avogador omnes curias on 12.11.1467 , tt. are Antonio Soranzo di Giovanni & Daniele Vitturi qu Rainiero
            Domenico qu Lorenzo is on the XXX at election of Doge Tron on 15.11.1471
            He is castellano Feltre on 09.05.1475

           No offspring            

    Also : Venier x Vitturi anno 1437 ( Moise fu Biagio x Caterina di Lorenzo )                                                                                                         
     
  5. Vitturi  x Duodo anno 1414 ( Nicolo fu Renier x Barbarella fu Pietro )  

    anno 1438 : Pietro qu Nicolo ( sponsor is the mother - widow Barbarella Duodo  , tt. are Tommaso Duodo qu Pietro & Bartolommeo Vitturi qu Reiniero )

     
  6. Vitturi x N ( Pietro x Clara )   Carta 279

    anno 1426 : Lorenzo qu Pietro ( sponsor is Bartolommeo Vitturi qu Reiniero & vir nobilis Lazaro Orso tt. are Bernardo Da Mosto qu Andrea & Pietro Zen qu Carolo )
        1) Lorenzo qu Pietro is bowman on the galleys for Beirut on 24.07.1430
            Lorenzo qu Pietro is bowman on galleys for Romania on 26.07.1431
            Lorenzo qu Pietro is banished from Venice for 1 year and from office for 2 years on 28.01.1432
            Lorenzo qu Pietro is witness at balla d'oro of Cristoforo Duodo di Luca on 11.07.1442
            Lorenzo qu Pietro is witness for Giovanni Dandolo qu Benedetto on 22.09.1460
            Lorenzo qu Pietro is witness at balla d'oro of Rainiero Vitturi qu Pietro qu Rainerio anno 1473

         No offspring
     
  7. Vitturi x N ( Zaccaria di Andrea )

    Zaccaria Vitturi is savio Creta elected on 01.10.1397

    anno 1412 : Benedetto di Zaccaria ( sponsor is Andrea Loredan )
    anno 1414 : Benedetto di Zaccaria qu Andrea ( sponsor is the father , tt. are not mentioned )    Is in Ca Viaro on carta 148 R

         1) Benedetto di Zaccaria is capo sestieri Castello on 26.05.1417
              Benedetto qu Zaccaria is capo XL on 04.04.1423 at death of Doge Tommaso Mocenigo cfr. Cronaca Tiepolo
              Benedetto di Zaccaria is savio ai ordine on 01.10.1423
              Benedetto Vitturi is avogador di comun ante 01.12.1456
              Benedetto qu Zaccaria is savio consiglio on 29.09.1458

Dr. Rik Van Hauwe , Denderwindeke , 17.11.2016